Comments on: Ordnung (1980) https://rarefilm.torrentbay.st/2021/12/ordnung-1980/ The Cave of Forgotten Films Tue, 17 Feb 2026 00:17:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: H. https://rarefilm.torrentbay.st/2021/12/ordnung-1980/#comment-32296 Thu, 08 Dec 2022 06:54:21 +0000 https://rarefilm.torrentbay.st/?p=23397#comment-32296 Thank you, Jon!

Unfortunateley, the English subs contain a vital error. At the beginning and at a later scene Herbert is shouting “Aufstehen!”, which is correctly translated as “Get up, everybody!”. But when he is shouting in the clinic for the third time, he DOES NOT say “Aufstehen!” again. In fact, he says “Auschwitz!”, but the subs say “Get up, everybody!” again (1:25’05”).

Nice movie, of course a strong reference to Fassbinder’s “Warum läuft Herr R. Amok” (1970). My all time favourite treating this subject is “Mahlzeiten” by Edgar Reitz (1967).

In comparison to “Ordnung” and “Herr R.”, “Mahlzeiten” is imo the most radical analysis of “social despair”, especially as at the end “love” is explicitly not presented as a solution. Rather, at the end love appears clearly as the climax of despair. (The same applies to unreflected “fast food religion” within the working classes). On closer inspection, this point (love as articulation of despair) is already shown in the very first take of “Mahlzeiten” in a brillant cinemapoetic manner. This is what makes “Mahlzeiten” much more subtle than “Ordnung” and “Herr R.”

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